Show Up. Be Real. Build Better Relationships.
You can feel it when something is missing.
You’re surrounded by people. Messages. Notifications. Conversations that fill the day.
And still… something feels off.
Not because you don’t have relationships. Because you don’t feel fully seen in them.
In this episode of The EmPOWERed Half Hour, Becca sits down with relationship expert, speaker, and author of The Relationship Advantage, Barb Betts.
What starts as a conversation about networking and business quickly goes deeper.
Barb shares the story she avoided telling for years. Growing up feeling unseen. Unchosen. On the outside of connection.
And how that experience shaped everything.
Not just her career. But her understanding of what real relationships actually require.
This conversation is for the woman who is doing all the “right” things. Showing up. Building connections. Growing her network.
But still feels like something is missing underneath it all.
Barb brings it back to something simple, but not always easy:
You don’t need more people. You need more real connection.
And that starts with how you show up.
In this episode:
What real connection actually requires (and what most people miss)
The difference between being visible and truly being present
How to be vulnerable without oversharing
Why relatability is the missing piece in most relationships
How confidence impacts the depth of your connections
Why performing and people-pleasing create shallow relationships
The simple daily habit that can transform your relationships
Quotes from this episode:
“Connection isn’t built through perfection. It’s built through presence.” – Barb Betts
“If you’re not being real, your relationships won’t feel real.” – Barb Betts
“You don’t need more contacts. You need more connection.” – Becca Powers
“Every opportunity in your life is tied to a relationship.” – Barb Betts
“Stop performing for connection and start showing up as yourself.” – Becca Powers
About Barb Betts
Barb Betts is a sought-after keynote speaker, CEO and relentless advocate for building businesses rooted in relationships. With over 20 years of experience, she blends authenticity and strategy to help professionals create lasting success while staying true to themselves. Known for her high-energy, transformative presentations, Barb has inspired audiences at events like LVMH, Thelios, Fidelity National, Inman Connect, and the NAR Annual Conference.
As an entrepreneur and CEO, Barb equips leaders and business owners with the systems and strategies to leverage relationships for growth and success. Through her award-winning podcast, Relationships are Your Superpower®, she shows how trust-based connections lead to more referrals, loyal clients, and sustainable business models.
Outside of her work, Barb enjoys life in Southern California with her husband and two children, believing that the strongest relationships are those nurtured both personally and professionally.
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Becca Powers: Welcome to another episode of The Empowered Half Hour, and I'm so excited to bring you today's guest. She is one of my keynote speaking buddies. So let me take a quick minute to introduce you to Barb Bets, keynote speaker and author of The Relationship Advantage. Welcome to the show.
Barb Betts: Thank you for having me, Becca.
I'm so happy to be here finally. Yeah,
Becca Powers: I know. I was like, finally, we might have had a couple of reschedules.
Barb Betts: We did.
Becca Powers: well, I wanted you on the show so much because I've gotten an opportunity to get to know, you know, your work and how impactful it is and both of us having sales backgrounds in different industries.
I couldn't agree more that the relationship is where everything starts, and I don't know that. Everyone has that point of view, so wanted to get you on to talk about it. You just released or soon to be releasing on May 12th, the relationship advantage. How has the book launch gone for you so far?
Barb Betts: it's a labor of love, They always say that it's not about the best writing author, it's the best selling author. And so, it's been a journey, but I am loving every second of it. 'cause I'm proud of the piece. I'm proud of the work and I just can't wait to get it into everyone's hands so that they can read it and enjoy it and ultimately change their lives and businesses.
Becca Powers: Yeah. That's awesome. Well, I wanna hear more about the book, but I love letting the listeners learn a little bit about the guest and why they're passionate about doing the thing that they're doing. So, what's your backstory? What led you to being so passionate about centering, your work around relationships and then ultimately writing your book?
The Story Behind the Work
Barb Betts: interesting question because up until about two years ago when I first started writing the book, if you would've asked me why I'm so passionate about relationships, I would've told you that it's because I built a whole sales career around them and I became a top producing, well-known, moved up the ranks and leadership realtor, and built an entire real estate business and practice, and then taught it to other agents.
All on the backs of no cold advertising, no internet leads. no bus benches, grocery carts, all of the things that traditional agents do. And that was what I used to tell people is why I'm so passionate about relationships. 'cause I've seen it literally change my business.
Becca Powers: Yes.
Barb Betts: And then I was at a speaking event, a couple years ago, a year and a half ago.
And, the mentor, another keynote speaker friend of mine, asked us a question from stage and he said, you know, what's the story on your heart that you're not telling? And I was like, Ooh, that's an interesting question. Right. I
Becca Powers: just got the goosebumps for
Barb Betts: Right. So it's a good question for everybody that's in the thought leadership business to ask themselves like, what is the story that's really inside of you that you are not telling?
Yeah. And I had this epiphany, I had this moment, I had this feeling, and it kind of all hit me the reason I'm so great about relationships and the reason I care about them so much, and the reason I've made them my life's work. Is because growing up as a little kid, I was not a popular child. I was, an only child.
I was overweight, awkward, wore coke bottle, thick braces, had a birthmark coke bottle, thick glasses, braces, and had a port wine stain birthmark all over my face. I was ridiculed, made fun of. Mm, all of the things the last one picked for kickball, not invited to sleepovers. I was a very lonely child, I was also an only child, so I was a latchkey kid who went home to an empty house every day.
And the reality is, the reason I never really told that story is I never wanted it to be a shame on my parents because they were good parents and they provided for me and all of the things, but it doesn't mean that I still wasn't lonely. And so I realized when I was asked that question that that's really where the foundation of my connection begins, because what I started doing as a young child is I started performing and protecting myself to become the person that everyone wanted me to be in order to have friends.
So it's how I made friends, and once I found friends and found connection and knew how that felt, to have people look at you and see you and know you and be friends with you and want you around. That's when I realized that when you go without something, your whole life, you'll fight with every bone in your body to have it for the rest of your life.
Like when people are homeless, are hungry, and so I think that's why am. I am so. I mesmerized and I've made it my life's work to make sure that human connection is always part of who I am and how I, move through life.
Becca Powers: Wow, that's deep. I had the goosebumps as you were talking, but I understand too.
I mean, to a certain degree I can relate to that different story, but I mean, listen, I might have strawberry blonde hair now via highlights, but I had orange carrot top. Hair and it was curly and my mom she brushed it out because it was the eighties.
Okay. Right. And so cause I curly hair. I had this big fluffy orange thing on my helmet of hair that I went around with. And. so yeah, I got made fun of and stuff like that, but I obviously love connection and relationships too, and I learned to use my personality and my humor and things like that to really connect and, I really, even
To this day, I have friendships that are over 30 years old because I value relationships so much. But let's pivot a little bit to, how have you seen this show up? For people positively. mean, and it's okay to talk about it from the business perspective.
A lot of the audience, are, I would say a small part is entrepreneur, solopreneur, but then we have a lot of corporate folks, some who are in sales. I have a lot of high performing sales independent contributors and salespeople. So we need relationships. So you can go on to the whole thing, but talk a little bit of how you've seen it transform personally and professionally.
Connection Over Perfection
Barb Betts: Well, the thing about relationships is we all have them whether we want them or not. Right? We all need to recognize that relationships are a part of our life and business, whether we want them or not. Nobody is truly living
Becca Powers: alone and you can't go around like, I don't like people. I mean, you can, but
Barb Betts: Well, people try to say that.
I always just say, it's because you're around the wrong people. If you say you don't like people, it's because you're around the wrong people. that's my belief when people say that, or I'm not a people person. Yes, you are, but you just aren't with the right people like. You have a high probably instinct for fakeness and small talk bugs you and things like that, superficial stuff, which is why you just haven't found your people.
but when we talk about how relationships are transformational in our lives, I really have the belief that, human connection is what drives the world. And the problem right now in society is we are more connected than ever before. we can have tens of thousand LinkedIn followers.
We can have hundreds of thousands of, Facebook friends and Instagram friends, and a database that holds 2,500 people and all of these things in our lives. Yet, we're feeling more disconnected than ever before. What I ask audiences oftentimes is, I'll say, raise your hand if you've already received 50 emails this morning, and everyone's hands go up, and then I'll say, leave your hand up if you've actually gotten one personal phone call or text message from a friend.
Not a family member, not a spouse or your child, but a friend or a colleague, and all of the hands go down, And so what we're not realizing about relationships is that when people say, oh, relationships don't work for me, or I don't, to your point, like anybody, and it's because we're not actually making them intentional.
We're not actually showing up for them, and we're not understanding what it really takes to have a real relationship. And that's kind of what I expose in the book is. What are the pieces and keys that you actually have to have in order to have a relationship? So if you don't have the relationships you want in your life personally or professionally, then you have to look at these three key factors and figure out which one's missing as a good podcast host would ask.
Visibility, Vulnerability, Relatability
Barb Betts: So I call it the VVR factor, and there's a whole chapter on it in the book, and it's three things that I believe that I've seen through every relationship that I have that you have to have in order to have an authentic, real relationship. And the first is visibility. You have to actually be present. You have to actually show up.
So when we talk about how relationships aren't working for you, well, are you showing up? Are you present? Are you making an effort? And when you are visible, are you actually really there? Or are you distracted on your phone? we all know what that looks like. The second piece is vulnerability. Now bear with me for a moment.
I am not talking about vulnerability in the idea of throwing up your entire life on somebody, right?
Becca Powers: Vulnerability is in my opinion too, when we say that be vulnerable, people are like legit just going straight to wanting to trauma dump on people, right?
That is not what we mean.
Barb Betts: No.
Becca Powers: So I'm just like, yes girl, I hear you. Yes. And can you please tell me more?
Barb Betts: Yes. So what I say in the book is there's different levels of vulnerability and your different levels of vulnerability are all gonna be based on the level of relationship that you have with somebody.
So when I say don't overshare and don't trauma dump, you're not gonna tell everyone your deepest, darkest secrets. Those are gonna be reserved for the people that you have the deepest level relationship with, But if we are not vulnerable in a human way to the capacity where someone else can see us as a normal human, we're never gonna build a relationship.
So I talk all about this a lot in leadership. Like I know you have a lot of leaders that listen to you here. In leadership vulnerability can be as simple as you're having a meeting about a new piece of software that the office is making you use. And vulnerability as a leader can be as simple as that leader saying, listen guys, I don't like the new software either.
I wish we didn't have to use it, but it's what we've been given and we're gonna make the best of it Right there, you're peeling back this. Era of perfection and that you have it all together and you're like, no, I don't like this either. It can be as simple as showing up to a meeting and being like, guys, I need a moment.
Or if I'm a little off today, my three-year-old was screaming at me the entire way to daycare or preschool, right? Like showing that you have humanity in you is a level of vulnerability, and then obviously it goes all the way down the spectrum to telling your best friends or your spouses or your partners the deepest, darkest parts of you and thoughts of you, But if you don't have a piece of vulnerability in a relationship, you can't have a relationship. It just isn't gonna work. And then the third piece is relatability. And this is the other one that people miss, right? If you don't have something in common with another human, you can't have a relationship.
And so when people tell me networking doesn't work for them, and I go to the room and I don't really get to know, well, are you finding points of commonality with another human you and I met through a mutual group that we were both engaged in. We had that piece in common right away. We have to build on that relatability.
It can be as simple as walking up to somebody and being like, oh my gosh, I love your pink jacket. I love pink too. It can be as simple as telling someone that you saw their dog on social media and you love their dog so much 'cause you have dogs. you enjoy the same thing. You enjoy the same sports, you enjoy the same restaurants and dining out.
You have a passion for traveling. There's so many ways we can create connection.
Becca Powers: You're dropping so many connection nugs right now. Yeah. Are you guys listening?
Barb Betts: Yeah. But if you don't have relatability with another human, that's why you don't have a relationship. If you don't have something in common, you're not gonna have a relationship.
And the last piece I would say to this is don't force it as much as this formula works for how you can have better relationships. Also don't force it. If you don't wanna be vulnerable with someone and you don't have anything in common and you don't wanna show up, guess what? You're not meant to have a relationship and that is okay.
We gotta stop forcing these relationships to happen. 'cause that's why you have a bunch of superficial relationships
Becca Powers: and there's so many humans in the world and universe like, just go about your business. It's okay.
Barb Betts: I mean, you and I the group that we met in, I've met hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of other members.
I only have relationships with certain ones. That's okay.
Becca Powers: It's okay.
Barb Betts: It's okay.
Becca Powers: I love that. And I think too that that mutual, connection and relatability. It also helps you with your confidence, which I know too is another big topic that you like to talk about, which we can open that up to if you want to.
Just in the example of you and I meeting, we're in a mutual group and then we end up at the same table and we're like both professional keynote speakers, not just. Keynoting because we can like, no, we are working our skillset to be professional keynote speakers and deliver on big stages and stuff.
And so it was kind of that extra like, okay, I see you, let's stay in contact, right? But you surround yourself with 3, 4, 5 other professional keynote speakers and then note you're no longer on island. You realize that, you have areas that you can contribute to them.
They have areas they can contribute to you. And so for me, what I've learned in these relationships that I've built in areas that that I'm trying to specialize in and stuff like that, just to continue to use that example, it's helped me build my confidence.
The Relationship That Changes Everything — You
Barb Betts: Yes.
so the book is broken down into three sections. The first section is a relationship with yourself, which I believe is the most important relationship we have. And until we figure out how to figure out who we authentically are and love that person, you'll never have the courage to fully show up as that person in the world.
Becca Powers: Yeah,
Barb Betts: and it's such an important, pivotal piece about relationships. One of the reasons relationships don't work is you are not being real. You're not being authentic. You're showing up as the person you think you're supposed to be, which is why your relationships are superficial and it's why your relationships don't feel good.
And I went through that. I often tell audiences that the person you're seeing stand on stage today is not the same person she was five years ago. Five years ago, I had a pivotal change in my life, and I realized that even though I had good relationships and I had a lot of friends and a lot of connections, they weren't deep enough because I wasn't showing up as me.
I was people pleasing. I was performing, I was protecting myself. And I thought just having a bunch of friends made me feel good. And what I realized is I'm not showing up, up in the right way to build the right relationships with the right people. And if these people love a version of me that is not real and authentic, then that's not a real relationship.
And so building this confidence within yourself. I talk in the book about how we have to build the confidence from the inside, how we're living life on these borrowed titles, this piece of borrowed confidence, right? Titles, applause, top producer, followers, insert whatever version of vanity you wanna insert.
And it's so K, we're all guilty of doing it, but what I did was I built my confidence from the inside so that it can never be taken away. Love that. You can't take it away from that.
Becca Powers: I love that. And I'm sure there's some listeners here, they're like, oh my God, she totally just called me out. I wanna ask a question.
If someone's listening and is like laughing, but also like, okay, I did just get called out. Like I kind of have some superficial stuff happening right now. What is a recommendation or a tip that you have to help them connect their inner confidence first?
Barb Betts: I share four permissions in the first section of the book.
Becca Powers: I love all the frameworks.
Barb Betts: Yeah. The first is permission to stop hiding. That's this idea that you just have to permission to stop being somebody that you're not. And I say that, you know, when we hide who we are, we limit who we can become, and we're all hiding behind something. Mine is a hair story that you can read about in the book.
We could go on for 30 minutes about it, but just basically a hair loss journey that changed my life and once I decided to stop hiding behind that hair loss journey, the flood gates opened with attraction and people that were drawn to me and doors and opportunities opening that I never thought would exist.
The second is the permission to stop people pleasing. Which is I could have had a PhD in people pleasing. I was a professional at it. that's the whole idea telling people what they want to hear instead of what they need to hear. the third is permission to reframe comparison.
And this is a big one because I think we get stuck in this rat race of leaning on this borrowed confidence because we're trying to keep up with someone else and we're trying to be someone else. And they talk about how comparison is the thief of authenticity. The second you compare yourself to someone else, you're taking away your own authenticity.
Yes. And so I give you four steps in the book, how to reframe that comparison into curiosity. I love that. Which is really powerful message. And then the last
Becca Powers: one, curiosity is such a higher vibrational.
Barb Betts: It is a higher vibrational, and I still get caught in it every day. was going through a moment yesterday, I called one of my best friends and she called me out on it.
She's like, well, let's use the first step of your framework. What is this feeling that you're having right now telling you that you want and that someone else is doing? And I always say that someone else's success is just proving to you that it's possible. It's not even just leaving clues. it's proving to you that it's possible.
The fourth really quick is this permission to embrace self-doubt Because we are told our whole lives not to doubt ourselves. And I say the opposite. No, you should doubt yourself every once in a while. You need to embrace that feeling of self-doubt. 'cause I believe self-doubt is truly the space where our confidence is born.
And this idea of being an imposter drives me crazy that we've programmed people. To think that imposter means you're a fake or you're a fraud. No wonder people are running around unconfident and
Becca Powers: then it's almost like the identity. They're like, well, I have imposter syndrome. So then it automatically separates.
Barb Betts: like you're giving yourself an excuse to not show up. You're giving yourself an excuse to not do the thing where I say that imposter syndrome is just a sign you're growing.
That's a lot. We could spend five hours talking about it all, but those are like the things that I know and I always tell audiences.
There's a thousand things that you can do to become more confident, but these are the four things that I know have changed my life in a big way.
Becca Powers: I love that. And I learned a valuable lesson in that too. You one of my master coaches several years ago when I was first getting into really trying to rise into the author keynote space.
And she was like, well, who do you envy? And I was like. What do you mean by that? And she's like, Who's a famous person that makes you feel kindsmall or like you really love them, but they make you feel some type of way? And I remember her saying like, I love her, but I hate her.
I'm like, Gabby Bernstein. She has taken all my New York Times bestsellers. that was just an example that maybe the audience could like
Barb Betts: grab on. She's showing you what's possible. She's showing
Becca Powers: you
Barb Betts: what possible. That
Becca Powers: is where I was going,
Barb Betts: right?
Becca Powers: Yes,
Barb Betts: yes. I know.
It's so hard and trust me, like I said, I still get caught up in it. I always tell people I am not a healed person. I'm a person who has decided that. Being the real me is the only way that I'm gonna show up in this world. And when I do have moments of self-doubt, when I do have moments of people pleasing, when I do have moments of comparison, when I do have moments of hiding who I really am, then I'm just gonna course correct quickly.
Step back into that person. That's why I started out this conversation by saying, until you know who you really are and choose to love that person. 'cause some people know who they are and they don't love who they are. So you gotta know who you are and love that person, and then you will have the courage to fully show up as them in this world.
Becca Powers: there's a part of your storytelling that really made me tear up because I did not go through it as severely as, you did. But I do know a lot of women struggle with alopecia and, you guys. She has a phenomenal story. Please purchase her book, you know, follow Barb.
She's amazing. But when you first told me your story, I just listened. I really didn't go into mind, but I worked myself into an emotional collapse a decade ago and my body started responding about 18 months afterwards, and I had got circular alopecia. just as a woman, when you start seeing your hair spiraling in clumps down to the floor, it's a whole nother thing.
You have to rise above. And so to see not only What you've overcome. But to be out there helping people reconnect with who they are, their confidence, using that confidence to build relationships. it's just so amazing. And so I just wanted to compliment you as a human being.
Barb Betts: Thank you.
Yeah, it's been a journey. I remember those moments when I brushed my hair and saw those alopecia spots, and then mine was combined with a bunch of other medical issues and genetic issues all the reasons I lost my hair. but yeah, having that. Moment in your, early forties is not something that most women have on their bingo card and then they're not being a good solution for women.
And so, yeah, going through that journey, making the decision to be honest and authentic about it and stop hiding behind it was the single best decision I've made in my life.
Becca Powers: I got the goosebumps way to go. Allwhere I wanna go next. what is in your book that we haven't talked about yet that might.
Send a listener on their way towards, either building a healthier relationship or maybe chasing a passion. But I know you've got lots of nuggets in there, so I'd love to open it up for you to share something that you wanna share. I
Barb Betts: the idea of the book is the first section's all about yourself.
The second section's, how do you build relationships with others? And then the third is how relationships make an impact in life. So there's one chapter on sales, one chapter on leadership, one chapter on community, and then ultimately how relationships are our legacy. But I would say the, the theme I wanna leave specifically anyone who needs relationships to propel their business or revenue or growth or leadership.
Is the idea that you need to build the relationships before you need them. And the reason that we know relationships are the foundation of business. We know that all our opportunities in life are tied to relationships. The problem is waiting until we need something to focus on the relationship or realizing we need something and there's, we know someone that can help us, but we don't wanna reach out because we haven't talked to them in five years.
Things like that. And so how do you build the relationship before you need them? And also understanding that you're human and these relationships drift away. And so how do you do things intentionally with a little bit of system and strategy behind it to ensure that the most important people in your life are hearing from you the most often?
And so the book gives frameworks on this and a whole operating system on this about how do you do this intentionally. And so I think I would wanna leave people with understanding that it's not, that relationships aren't working for you, or you don't have good relationships, is that you're not being intentional about them.
And if you would be more intentional about them, then you would have the relationship built before you actually need something. Whether it be a referral, whether it be an introduction, whether it be you need medical help. there's a myriad of different reasons we call on our relationships. And so it's kind of like the idea of
You have everybody you need right in front of you. You're just not being intentional.
Becca Powers: That is so good. Man, I have like three questions I wanna ask and I'm like, it might open up a lot more time. So let me ask you this, since it is the empowered half hour, let's start going into the empowerment zone.
you've shared a lot of how relationships can empower people, but always like getting super specific. how would you want to share how relationships. Empower, empower a person, maybe in a couple sentences or something, like more in a statement form, let's give some goods to the listeners.
Barb Betts: I would remind everybody when we talk about how relationships empower us, is the understanding that every opportunity you've ever had in life has been tied to a relationship. So if you just think for a moment at the last five opportunities, you had new job, got into a doctor that's booked out for six months, but you got an appointment in two weeks.
A table at a restaurant that is booked out for months. All of these things are tied to a relationship that you either built or one that you leverage, meaning you have a relationship with someone who has a relationship with someone else, And I want you to just realize if every opportunity in life is tied to a relationship, then also the understanding that every relationship that you are letting drift away or that you are ignoring could be opportunities you're missing.
And so. End with knowing that these people that you think about often these people that you pop into your mind and you don't do anything about it, just start today by doing something I te I'll end with. I teach a really simple method in the book and it's probably the thing that I might be go down to my grave being known for teaching thousands of people.
This is the five by five method and I call it the five by five method for a very specific reason. It's five messages a day to five people you care about five days a week. If you start doing this every day for the rest of your life, you will watch your relationships fundamentally change, and it's messages with no ask and no agenda.
It's just checking in. I was thinking about, you saw this and it made me think of you thought you'd enjoy this podcast. Oh my God. I went to that restaurant last night that we went to, three years ago where we just laughed all night long. Anything. How's the kids? How's the family? How's life? No ask, no agenda.
Just show people that you care. Bonus points if you do it in a systematic way, which I talk about in the book, but five messages a day to five people you care about, and you will transform your life and other people's lives because you're gonna show them that they actually matter to you and
Becca Powers: it doesn't take a lot to let someone know you care.
to that point of that simple text. I remember recently going to Stevie Nicks concert. Shocker, like anybody knows me, that was like, I'm mega fan. So like shocker. I was at a Stevie Nicks concert, but I remember texting one of my mentors who I hadn't text for a while, who also loves Stevie Nicks song played.
And I was like, oh my God, I'm a Stevie Nicks just thinking of you. But it got us back in contact and you was just nice. And she's like, I can't believe you thought of me. And it's just really nice to,
Barb Betts: well, that's what I tell people when people will say, well, what do I do when someone I haven't talked to in four years?
Just text them.
Becca Powers: Just do it.
Barb Betts: And people will be like, well, do I apologize? No, they know you haven't talked to them in four years too. You don't need to apologize. Don't make a weird,
Becca Powers: because I haven't
Barb Betts: do, you're like, Hey, I was thinking about you today. I saw this and it made me think of you. It might open up a new conversation stream.
Then hopefully that will lead to maybe an in-person, face-to-face, coffee, zoom, chat, whatever you wanna do, and now all of a sudden the relationship is right back on track. 'cause if there was a foundation of a relationship there before a foundation of a relationship will appear again.
Becca Powers: Wow. Barb, it has been an absolute pleasure to have you on the podcast.
I could talk to you for probably two hours straight and just have a ball doing it. But, um, we're at the 30 minutes, so go ahead and share with the audience how they can purchase your book, how they can follow you.
Barb Betts: Yes. My favorite thing so therelationshipadvantagebook.com is where you can go purchase your advanced copy of the book and you'll get a bunch of bonuses and all of the things.
And then I love to hang out on Instagram and LinkedIn. It's just at bar bets. Really simple, really easy. And it's me online, it's me and my dms. So just pop in, say hi, tell me you learned about me from Becca's great show. And yeah, then we'll be friends.
Becca Powers: That's awesome. Well, thanks again for coming on. It was so great to see you.
Barb Betts: Thanks, Becca.
